Mindblown: a blog about philosophy.

In reply to <a href=”https://prosociallibertarians.com/2022/12/14/government-actions-arent-pareto-optimal-they-are-paternalist/comment-page-1/#comment-309″>Andrew Jason Cohen</a>. “Try getting a flight somewhere.“ Right. That’s because you need a passport when you land in France. No one is going to let you board a commercial flight to France if you cannot legally get of the plane. But it has nothing to do with leaving the U.S.…

In reply to <a href=”https://prosociallibertarians.com/2022/12/14/government-actions-arent-pareto-optimal-they-are-paternalist/comment-page-1/#comment-316″>sean s.</a>. 1. That they can be denied is all that matters. It means you are at the mercy of the government. 2a. I don’t think all businesses oppose it. 2b/3a. I don’t see the contradiction. Can you make it clear for me? 4a/b. Over complicating it. The mugger pretty clearly…

In reply to <a href=”https://prosociallibertarians.com/2022/12/14/government-actions-arent-pareto-optimal-they-are-paternalist/comment-page-1/#comment-312″>Daniel L. Schmutter</a>. People (which includes workers) own property which includes the fruit of their labor, and they have a right to use that property without coercion by employers. Requiring workers to give up the fruit of their labor (property) to keep minimal employment is not justifiable. If leaving is the…

In reply to <a href=”https://prosociallibertarians.com/2022/12/14/government-actions-arent-pareto-optimal-they-are-paternalist/comment-page-1/#comment-314″>Daniel L. Schmutter</a>. Try getting a flight somewhere.

In reply to <a href=”https://prosociallibertarians.com/2022/12/14/government-actions-arent-pareto-optimal-they-are-paternalist/comment-page-1/#comment-309″>Andrew Jason Cohen</a>. 1. Receiving a passport is a formality. They can only be denied because of legal entanglements; seeking work abroad is not a basis for a denial. 2a. Regarding healthcare, we agree. But since business interests oppose severing healthcare from employment, you’ll need to convince them. 2b. Whatever negotiation…

In reply to <a href=”https://prosociallibertarians.com/2022/12/14/government-actions-arent-pareto-optimal-they-are-paternalist/comment-page-1/#comment-313″>Andrew Jason Cohen</a>. “1. I think we agree“ How can I assist you in knowing we agree? 🙂

In reply to <a href=”https://prosociallibertarians.com/2022/12/14/government-actions-arent-pareto-optimal-they-are-paternalist/comment-page-1/#comment-309″>Andrew Jason Cohen</a>. You don’t need a passport to leave. You need a passport to get back in. Leaving requires no permission from anyone.

In reply to <a href=”https://prosociallibertarians.com/2022/12/14/government-actions-arent-pareto-optimal-they-are-paternalist/comment-page-1/#comment-312″>Daniel L. Schmutter</a>. 1. I think we agree 2&3. Agreed.

“1. Citizens can move or emigrate.” Requiring a person to leave their property if they don’t like the conditions is coercive. The Gov’t doesn’t own the entire country. People own property, and they have a right to use that property without coercion by Gov’t. “2. It is common for employees to have no real option…

In reply to <a href=”https://prosociallibertarians.com/2022/12/14/government-actions-arent-pareto-optimal-they-are-paternalist/comment-page-1/#comment-310″>Daniel L. Schmutter</a>. You need a passport.